Church Life, The Church

Podcast #2 – What Is Organic Church? Part 1 (Season 1.02)

Welcome to our second podcast!!

***LISTENER BEWARE!!!  This podcast is NOT for listeners with recent surgery or illness, high blood pressure, heart trouble, pregnancy, nor those who are easily offended.  Listen at your own risk.  Ye be warned!***

The Players

  • Thomas
  • Wesley
  • R.C.
  • Bridget

The Question

For those who are new to the blog, or for those who haven’t figured this out by now, we are saints who meet outside the typical, American church system.  Some people call what we do “organic church”.  Admittedly, that is what Bridget, R.C., and Wesley all moved across the country for a few years ago: organic church.  What we’ve all discovered over the past four and five years is that this “organic church” thing wasn’t just another way to “do” church.  It was simply a term to help more easily identify what was happening.  We no longer aspire to be a part of an “organic church”, but to be built together with, function together with, and express the nature of Jesus Christ with His Church: the ecclesia.  In this podcast, the four of us wanted to discuss the definition of organic church, and well, frankly, the Lord took us in an interesting direction.  What is posted here is the first part of our conversation (heavily edited for time and shenanigans) with part 2 currently slated to post next Monday, November 24th.

So, the question that we discuss here is:

What is Organic Church?

Again, we have all lived in, participated in, and experienced “organic church life” for over 4 years each.  Our answers stem from that experience with Christ and His Body.  We would love to hear your thoughts in the comments section.

The Song

The song chosen to play before and after our conversation is “Setting Our Tables” by The Last Bison.  This is the same group used last time, and I thought the title was appropriate for topic of conversation: we’re setting our tables for this juicy dialogue.  The lyrics are below:

Our forks and knives
They work with antlers side by side
They’re gnawing at the withered pine
Hoping she’s the one

 

As the Red Deer relate to
The month of April.
So do we wait patiently
To set our tables

Our forks and knives
They work with antlers side by side
They’re gnawing at the withered pine
Hoping she’s the one

And my Father’s Bride
Is tearing down the mountain side
Soon the trees will all align
Leaving us with Sons

Cast them later than the older ones
Until September when they have become
Fully covered in a velvet skin
Till they’re just like the shrubs and saplings they defend

As the skin sheds slowly
The mount becomes more stable
And I would climb to redefine
The path if I were able


Future Podcast Episode Ideas

Also, we’d love to answer any questions you may have for future podcast episodes.  So, if there is a topic or two just burning your brain, please ask it (or them) in the comments section, and we’ll seek the Lord on answering.


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18 Comment

  1. Reply
    mark
    November 17, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Voltron is awesome, but Urban Dictionary is not a legit source… :-p

    I heard a story once about a banker who wanted to pass on his trade to his son. When his son was of age he put him in the basement of the bank counting money by hand every day, 8 hours a day, for a year. After a year, the son was fed up and ready to do just about anything else. His father, however, had been training him all this time without his knowledge. The next day when he went to work he slipped a counterfeit bill into the stacks of money the son was to count. The son identified the counterfeit bill as soon as it touched his fingers because over the course of the last year he had become so familiar with the authentic money any slight variation was obvious.

    Thanks for the beautific podcast!
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      R.C. Babione
      November 17, 2014 at 10:25 am

      Thanks for the beautific story, brother!

      (And I’ll let Thomas know that he shouldn’t quit, even though he’s not too legit.) 😉

  2. Reply
    James
    November 17, 2014 at 9:21 am

    The kinds of things I learn when R.C., Bridget, Thomas and Wesley conversation:

    * The beautific life is an urban life.
    * The ekklesia is Voltron, an assemblage of Voltrites.
    * The little pig who built his house out of living stones was Jesus.

    1. Reply
      R.C. Babione
      November 17, 2014 at 10:27 am

      Those. Are. Epic. Lessons. 🙂

      Amen, and thanks for sharing, brother!

  3. Reply
    Hayley
    November 17, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    I just love hearing the fun you guys are having talking about Christ and His bride, lightens my heart

  4. Reply
    Amanda Iosa
    November 17, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Thank you all for another wonderful podcast. As I listened, I could “see” an expression of the “other half” of Christ come together, built out of the four of you, and she was beautiful! The pictures and metaphors were spot-on. A lot to absorb and talk over with the Lord. Looking forward to the next installment!
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  5. Reply
    Big Mike
    November 17, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    R.C. and Bridge- I think you are giving your kids something priceless. Imagine all the unlearning you are saving them from. They are brothers and sisters who will be lifted higher on your shoulders.
    Thomas- Loved your contributions about Voltron and other clarifying statements you provided.
    Wes- Your voice could soothe a charging rhino into submission 🙂

    Love you guys!!

  6. Reply
    Tony
    November 17, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    It has been refreshing listing to your podcast conversation. I hope you have many more to come. I have a question(s), concern or comment regarding “what is a church” or “the church”. Corinth was divided, carnal and immature. By your definition of the Church, was it ” the church”?. Which of Paul’s, Peter’s or John’s letters were written to “Voltrons”( “…Jesus Christ in His people corporately-built together…”)?. Maybe the question could be- at what point of being “built together” does a group of believers become a voltron- (Christ fleshed out)? So much more to say, but out of time- here is a possible definition for a Voltron- “The whole is greater than the sum of the parts”

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      Bridget Babione
      November 18, 2014 at 8:43 am

      Tony, thanks for the encouragement and for keeping the conversation going. I think this is a great question. Honestly, Voltron is not a perfect picture for the Eternal Purpose, which is probably why it’s not used in scripture. 😉 So, when does a body become a body, a house become a house, a family become a family, or a bride become a bride? I think that it is different for each group, and I do think there is a definite growing, preparing, building process involved. However, my personal opinion is that a church is birthed when that process begins, not when it is complete. (I’m not sure it’s ever complete on this side of eternity.)
      So concerning Corinth, yes I believe they were a “voltron”, though I see them hindering the process by staying in their immaturity, division, and carnality. I also believe that all epistles were written to “voltrons”, yes even Timothy and Jude, who were members of “voltron”.
      Here is the distinction for me: What is the foundation or purpose of the group? Is the purpose to meet God’s need, man’s need, or some religious obligation? The only sure foundation for the church is the Eternal Purpose IN Christ Jesus. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Eternal Purpose of God, and the church (who is IN Christ) is the expression of the Eternal Purpose of God in the earth and to the principalities and powers in the spiritual realm. The reality is that this expression is rare because it requires a heaping portion of the cross, but is it ever glorious!
      Like you said, “So much more to say,” but I hope this makes some of my opinions clear. And I totally agree, “the whole is greater than the sum of the parts”.
      (And for anyone reading this comment and wondering, “what in the world is the Eternal Purpose?” check out ‘From Eternity to Here’ by Frank Viola.)
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        Tony
        November 19, 2014 at 10:27 am

        Bridget, just wanted to say thank you for your response to my questions and comments. You guys really are unique. I’m jumping over to comment on RC’s new post. if time ever allows, I continue my thoughts.

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    kenneth dawson
    November 18, 2014 at 3:06 am

    well the real question would be–what does organic mean–by my understanding it means natural–so organic church means the very natural life of God flowing out of one human into another and vice versa.

  8. Reply
    Tony
    November 18, 2014 at 6:51 am

    So my wife and I are the church?

    1. Reply
      Bridget Babione
      November 18, 2014 at 9:08 am

      Yes and no. If you are looking for the easy way out, and don’t want to have to lay your life down for anyone else, then, no, you and your wife are not the church. The Lord is after more. However, if you are in a season where there are no other options, then yes, I believe the Lord can express Himself through a husband and wife as the church. I do believe the Lord wants a greater corporate expression, but I don’t think He is going to refuse anyone who truly desires Him.
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    Donna
    November 19, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    1. Voltron – love it. Thank you.
    2. Knowing the REAL thing, so recognise the counterfeit – love it. Thank you.
    3. Every believer into Christ is a member, but not until we’re built together are we the church – love it. Thank you.
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    Kalil
    December 11, 2014 at 11:22 am

    Great podcast, I love the conversation style. I agree that the church isn’t what you and I define it as, but how the Lord Himself sees it. Form always follow function and if Jesus is the function His Church will take the form He desires.

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